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April 22, 2008

Rob Bell, Doug Pagitt, Todd Hunter podcast...

Here's a link to the podcast from the night after the Seeds of Compassion event. Rob talks about the new book him and Don Golden are going to release in October, Jesus Wants to Save Christians. I also believe he talks about the issue of women in ministry (I will update once I have a listen).
 

By the way, If you haven't listened, you can listen to the series of sermons by the same title on ITunes.  It was series when the podcast first went up.  It also is a combination with "The New Exodus," (you can download it from www.marshill.org.) which talks about the framework in which we at Mars Hill reads the Bible.

I've listened to part of it.  So go check it out.

(HT: Vineyard Community Church and Off the Map)

April 19, 2008

Ok, I'm just going to say it...

I am tired of people getting amped up on others when they don't say the particular "catch phrases" about Christians sharing Jesus with others.  The last couple of weeks, I have been reading various blogs and having face-to-face conversations with some who are upset are certain people because they apparently missed an "opportunity to share the gospel."  Specifically, I hear that of one of my pastors, Rob Bell, when he's out and about at things (the Seeds of Compassion conference comes to mind) as well as his weekly teachings.

My friends, in response to this let me ask a question, is it possible to speak about something, or a truth, without ever mentioning its name or label?  I think anyone with any shred of common sense could answer that.  Assuming you know the correct answer, wouldn't it be possible for someone to share the truth of Jesus without going through the standard mantra of description?

My wife (who is 1000 times more brilliant than I could ever dream, posted a comment on my friend Erica's blog regarding this:

"Okay, I just watched the clips of Rob at the Seeds of Compassion event. As a follower of Jesus and a member of Mars Hill I must say I am very proud of how Rob spoke beautiful truths in response to those questions. I am blessed to have the privilege to be engaged in those truths each and every time I hear him teach. I am blessed that he has spoken such truth into my life personally and directly. To say that he did not share Christ is absurd! As Christians, aren't we supposed to share Christ with our lives? If all truth is God's truth, then when we speak truth are we not sharing Christ?

As for not sharing the power of the cross, I am in complete disagreement. I have no idea whether he gave a "gospel presentation" off camera, but the words he spoke were indeed the power of the cross! Redemption and forgiveness and resurrection were the issues he spoke on - if that's not the power of the cross, I don't know what is! He did not need to use the specific phrases we are so used to hearing in our churches to share the power of the cross. There are those people who somehow seem to think that the depth of our faith can only be felt and heard with those certain words. How that shortchanges the ability of God to penetrate into the hearts and minds of all people! Rob may have gained more respect from his honest, thoughtful, and poignant responses than if he had done nothing but preach a mini-sermon. He may have lost respect. What if his answers encourage people who wouldn't normally take interest in what Christians had to say to listen to him and be curious about his writings and teachings? From my own personal experience, people who are dis-interested in or turned off by Christians are more than likely to take an interest in Christ from the Christ they see demonstrated in my life, not the the "Christian" words I speak to them."

Some think that because some of these words were not mentioned, the message of the gospel (which could be one of the issues, as that word in itself needs defined) has been "watered-down."  If I speak on the power of forgiveness, of death, and resurrection, do you think it would have any possibility of speaking of Christ, and especially the cross?! 

I think people come to listen to Rob, or Doug Pagitt, or whoever else you want to label as a heretic, evil, or bad (or you fill in the blank), already come with an agenda to nitpick anything they can find (and will take things out of context quickly) without considering that they can speak some truth.  I am always trying to be aware when I take that posture with those whose views I don't totally adhere to (a certain seminary prof comes to mind), but at the same time, I am asking God for the humility to be open to truths that emerge.

If your mind is too shallow to not even consider the person speaking truth, then you are shutting off the Holy Spirit.  What are you so afraid of?

I think people like Rob are showing those who don't profess in Jesus that there are Christians who do want to make the world a better place, who in my mind actually put love on display.  What powerful words Rob spoke in those few minutes regarding violence in our world.  It was a tough question, and he handled it beautifully and spoke with such hope.

So please, for the love of Christ and His Kingdom, please consider this plea to be humble; to acknowledge that God can teach us from anybody, anything, or any circumstance, no matter what our feelings toward them are.  We will become more like Christ because of it.

December 15, 2007

Church purchases porn to shred it at Worship gathering...

This honestly is what I hope churches can do more of.

Marvin Williams, a pastor who occasionally preaches at Mars (you may have heard him if you are an online listener), had his church purchase out the entire porn collection at one of the more popular local video stores in town so they could shred it up at the 10am service on Sunday.  The movies totally one-third of the owner's revenue per month!!  The revenue totaled $4000/month for the owner, so Marvin's church decided to purchase the collection for $2000 and shred it on Sunday.  The owner originally wanted to sell them AT COST to anyone who would buy it to get rid of it, and that's when Marvin stepped in and offered the owner $2000 so he wouldn't be hit hard financially by the loss.

I was imagining some of my more conservative friends thinking this was an abominable act, but cheers to Marvin and his church for getting rid of something that definitely as it's grip on many in the community-at-large.

If I find the article online, I'll send a link, it was in the local paper this morning.

June 04, 2007

"That's just social gospel..."

I've heard this comment from many people, especially regarding Mars Hill recently, and even more so with the emerging church movement.  "We're just going back to social gospel again..." 

OK, here's my response:  SO WHAT!?

I mean seriously, what is wrong in trying to care for those who have been forgotten?  Seriously people don't think we're naive enough to say that the only thing we focus on is "social" issues.  If you have been a part of the Mars Hill community for a long time, you would understand quickly that we believe salvation is holistic in nature, that includes social and inward journeys. To deny one of the major teachings of Scripture regarding those who are forgotten (for one reference go back to the end of James chapter 1), is to deny a part of God's heart.

There is life (and a lot of messiness) in trying to come alongside those who have no voice.  What I find with those who have issues with the "social gospel" is really an excuse for those not do anything about the issues that are the greatest needs of our time.  For those who argue against the social gospel in my mind feels more like a supposed legitimate excuse not to care about it.  And that is very dangerous ground to walk on my friends. 

Look, for those who want to argue that this is not the true gospel, let me share something with you.  If you are in poverty (in whatever way that is), or you are just trying to feed your family, hearing someone give a "presentation of the gospel" or "witnessing" or whatever you want to call it, falls on deaf ears.  James talks about this in chapter 2 v.16, If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? (NIV)

Really, what good is it?  Why would anyone listen to what you have to say if you show that God doesn't care about their current situation?  If God is using the church to put him on display to the world with this revolutionary love, where's the love into talking their ears off and doing nothing for their needs? 

OK, enough of this soapbox, I just had to get it off my chest.

May 22, 2007

My first home improvement project...and church?

We bought our first house when we moved here to Mars Hill.  We were very excited to actually own our own home (well, I guess technically the bank still does since you have a mortgage, but let me have my fun).  So my wife is going around, looking at what could be improved.  Our kitchen and bathroom need some serious updating, but that's going to cost a little.

The other important note, to our detriment, is that I am the "unhandyman."  Seriously, I freak out over cars, anything wood related, plumbing, electric, and flooring.

Pretty much everything handy I'm pretty bad at.  I am the antithesis of the male stereotype in this regard.

So my parents are coming up this weekend for the first time, and my wife had been talking about our backyard.  We just got a used, but functional wooden swing set for my daughter for $20, and my wife goes into renovation mode, wanting to put a patio in the backyard.  A sizable one at that.  About a 10 x 14 area. 

Last weekend, we embarked on this project, I bought some bricks (just a few...seriously I'm joking...), and she was hoping to have this little job finished in one day.  I looked at like she was crazy.  Every home improvement website is telling me this is a 2-3 weekend project. 

Let's just say that I just got done laying down some more stone, and I've got about 8-9 blocks to go.  We'll get it done by this weekend, just in time for my folks to enjoy the patio.

Of course I have no idea what to do with the two huge dirt clumps in my yard, but with the amount of kids riding bikes around here, I'm sure I could contribute to some hospital runs by building a ramp with it.  At least that's what I did when I was a kid.

There are a couple of things that I was reminded of while I'm doing this.  First is having vision.  The Scriptures say "Without a vision, the people perish."  While I know that is used so much as a quote, it's easy to see why when you install a patio.  You've got to dig the dirt (for us it was almost 5 hours of shoveling, that was both my wife and I), you've got to pack the dirt down, then you put in the gravel, you pack that down, then you put in the sand, then you level the sand, then you lay the block and make sure it's level.  When you're in the midst of the work, when you're in you're third hour of shoveling, you ask yourself a lot of questions of why you even went there in the first place.

But I kept telling myself and my wife, "Just imagine what this will look like when it's done.  We're going to have some good times out here.  My wife drew a diagram, we smiled as we looked at it. Now that we're almost done, it is looking pretty good, for a bunch of rookies. As more of the pieces come together (literally), you start to see why we embarked on this in the first place.  Honestly, I have no idea what would happen when we started.  I don't think Julia knew either.  But to see the vision become a reality is refreshing.

The second thing I was aware of is the kind of person that I am, a visionary.  I am so horrible at the details.  I see a picture, and I see step 1, but the next step I see is step 10.  Over the years I've been able to see the next steps ahead, but when I do, it takes a lot of energy out of me.

I feel that way with Mars Hill and our XYZ initiative.  I know we're trying to go into this wisely, but I think we have a lot of visionaries and not as many details people.  So it's a big process.  Sure there are details, but I think most of the people are talked to are just as confused as I am sometimes.  However, the vision for XYZ is good, and to that we hold on to hope and give our lives for.  As I get more involved, you see really how messy and messed up we are, but the difference between here and other places we have found ourselves is that there is this vision that is too compelling to ignore, with a lot of people and energy who want to give themselves to it.

I'm looking forward to "stepping" onto the vision we shared this weekend, and excited to see where the Mars Hill journey continues to take us.

March 07, 2007

An inspiring story...

Please go read this post by Seth Barnes.  These are the kinds of things the gospel is about.  We need more stories like this.

The lure/deception of position/labels...

I don't want to say I've come to this realization, I'm just becoming more aware how deep down this is.

There is a sickness in the Christian church with position.

Look, I know it's nothing new but let me explain.

For 9 years, I received a paycheck from the church for full-time service in youth ministry.  Now that I am currently not getting said paycheck, but feel like I'm doing just as much, it's begging to ask a lot of questions about what position has done to my soul.

For many, there are feelings of validation that come with it.  That's what is sick.  Your position is you.  You are your position.  The question becomes, "Can you do what you do without getting a paycheck for it?"  This has brought up so many things inside of me that is deep. 

Let me give you an example.  Lately, there's a lot of questions about my gifts and talents.  What I am really supposed to be doing?  I feel like I'm made to do so much more than this.  I know that teaching and preaching are huge parts of who I am, and now that I don't have that outlet, it's making me ask a lot of questions.  I don't get a paycheck anymore, therefore my calling is not affirmed and validated. 

For those of you who get paychecks from the church for such things, you know exactly what I'm talking about.  A paycheck in a sense becomes a sign of support, that God is validating your calling.

And then we start complaining that our paycheck isn't big enough.  We start saying that it's really not as supportive as we originally thought.  We start comparing our paychecks to other's paychecks.

That's position talk.

I even think about scholars and experts.  Look, I am grateful for people who invest this amount of time in study in certain disciplines, but the scary part is when I see them use their position to bash people who are not "scholars" or "experts" in the area mentioned.  They are dismissed because of education, because of poor writing, logic, argument, and such.

That's position talk.

Even as volunteers, I always hear complaints about those who do get paychecks compared to them when they feel they are doing more work.  I have a little more compassion for those who do get a paycheck considering I was one of them for a long time, and yet deep down, when I really have to admit it, part of me feels tied to that paycheck as a sense of validation, and I think for some who volunteer they feel the same.

That's position talk.

The thing I'm dealing with now is asking the question, "Who is me?"  Not according to position, but who am I as a person?  How does that connect with what God is doing amongst me?

The scary thing is that I've realized so many pastors are striving for better position.  We look at those who write books or speak somewhere as having "arrived" somewhere (we may not use that term but that's what we are implying), taking their words as gospel.  I have been one of those people.  I believe God has wired me to teach and preach, but does that mean I need 750 students in front of me and getting a nice paycheck to say that my calling is now validated?

I currently lead a house church, mentor an elementary student (soon to be another), and am a d-group leader for 5th and 6th graders.  It seems so insignificant compared to what I was doing.

That's position talk. 

Think about bios.  Why should I listen to this person?  Well, because he/she has a PhD in this or that, or an MA in this, or is a 20+ year veteran of whatever.  Maybe I just read the article and ask if God has something to say to me.  What if it was written by a 10-year old?  Would I not read because he/she hasn't even graduated high school?  Again, I'm not saying that we shouldn't listen to those with advanced degrees and amazing experience, but sometimes I think we don't give credit to those without the degrees and accolades, but yet speak loudly the words of God in our lives.

In all of the roles I currently play, I am not getting a paycheck, yet I still do them.  Why?  Because this is who I am.  Am I teaching and preaching?  Yes.  It's just a different kind.  Am I still a leader?  Yes, I'm just not getting a paycheck for it.  But do I need it? 

Now I understand the comments like "Well, we have to make a living."  What the hell do you think I'm going through!?  I have to make a living, and I'm not getting a paycheck from the church.  I've been training for the last week on being a customer service rep at home.  Is this something I want to do?  No.  But money's getting tight and I've got to pay the bills.  I'm still doing all of these other things and have to get a job so we can pay the bills.  It's raised a lot of questions.

I'm not saying you shouldn't get a paycheck for what you do (I'm talking specifically to pastors and those who do receive a paycheck from the church), what I'm asking is that if you are pursuing bigger and better paychecks, or positions, or accolades, or whatever.

THAT is position talk, and it's dangerous to your soul.

Where is your voice outside of your position?  Who are you? 

You see position talk all of time.  When I was at the Isn't She Beautiful Conference I saw people taking pictures of everything in the building: the walls, the stage, the chairs, the paint, even Rob's sermon notes laid out on butcher paper.  I hear the conversations of as Rob Bell and Don Golden like to say, "talk about how big their steeple is."  I spoke at this and that, I write curriculum, I do this and that.  Position talk is saturated in our church.  We have swallowed hook, line, and sinker the global culture of power.

Think about where Jesus was born, who he was born too, who came to visit him, who he chose as his disciples, who God chose in the story of the Bible.  The "not-good-enoughs," "have-nots," "didn't make the cuts," "B-team," "rejects," "social outcasts." 

Even now I see talk about me because I attend Mars Hill, have this opinion like I'm the "insider."  "You should really listen to this guy because he goes there."  It is a very dangerous road to be tied to your position to feel good about yourself.

I speak only as a formerly paid pastor, but I know this runs deeper than that.  This is in any job.

I don't know if any of these is speaking to someone, but if you are finding yourself desiring bigger paychecks, validation in position, and the like, ask yourself the hard "why" questions.  Why are you seeking validation?  Why a bigger paycheck? 

For me, when I got down really deep, it was because I thought God didn't think I was good enough.  It was because I thought God views me as a failure.  It was because maybe I really believe God doesn't love me.  It was because I thought God was punishing me for all of the past mistakes that I've made.

God is speaking all of the time, through ANYBODY, paycheck or not.  Are you listening? 

What I'm finding is that I'm doing the things God has wired me to do, but it just looks different than before, and He has to purge me of "position-talk" to prepare me for what He's laid out ahead for me. It is something that is attached to the deepest part of who I am, and it hurts to even talk about it. 

But I am finding healing in the midst of it.  I am seeing how God still uses me in spite of this.  How he has place me in this particular context for such a time as this, and in this context I am slowly discovering who the real Mike Lamson is. 

Thanks for listening.  I am writing this at 1AM and there is no outline.  I have literally dumped my soul extemporaneously regarding this subject.

If there is something that speaks to you, may it bring shalom. 

February 22, 2007

A great letter...

Scot McKnight has posted a wonderful letter in response on what motivates criticism.  It is one the cuts to the heart of the matter, and hopefully makes you ask some serious questions on why you criticize when you do.  It asks you the motivations behind your critcisms.  He asks some great questions, and the letter itself is a great example of what he's talking about. Go check it out.

February 07, 2007

What is the point of church?

I'm trying to see if this podcasting thing works.  I'm trying out some new software.

I was looking at some blogs today about worship services which prompted this post.  Let me know if it works for you. You'll need the Quicktime player to hear it. I guess with that, since I'm new to this, is there a way to put in a plugin so that EVERYONE could hear it, without downloading some third party software?


February 02, 2007

The power of community...

Something I've noticed the last couple of days.  There is really something powerful about community.  I don't mean just getting together to eat and socialize, but to delve deep into the dark issues of our lives.  As I'm continuing to open up more about what I'm dealing with deep down, I'm finding people here who are willing to carry it with me.  Honestly, I don't know if I've really had that before.  My position as a pastor in church kept me from that (or let's say maybe I helped with that too after getting burnt too many times).

Now, I don't have that excuse.

I said previously about asking a new set of questions.  Here is what I've come up with so far:

1. What is God doing in my midst and how can I join Him?
2. How can I be a blessing to every one who walks in my path daily?

It has been a refreshing last 3 days as a result. 

My problem before is that I had no one else to help carry my burdens, and I ended up carrying everyone else's.  I'm here to tell you that if you do that long enough, you will fizzle out.  It will become unbearable.  If you are in that situation, you need to do whatever it takes to find people in your area to wrestle with those things.  Chances are there are many people struggling with the same types of things.

It's just the beginning, but I can see the performance paradigm gaining some distance, and I can only do that with others.

We cannot walk the journey alone.